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Offline Diabolo

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Class 9.50
« on: January 06, 2007, 11:59:57 AM »
Jean-Marie Vidal (former winner of Solitaire du Figaro and well-known Minist) has created a new class. There is an article on http://seasailsurf.com.
Looks like this will not be as extreme as the Class 30 but more like a scaled down version of the Class 40.

But if there is the right promotion, it could be quite interesting !


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Re: Class 9.50
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2007, 12:37:01 PM »
And JM Vidal has a lot of connections, so it could work.
THe size is very attractive, big enough for a toilet :)


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Re: Class 9.50
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2007, 16:06:08 PM »
Okay, so SOMEONE out there will have to talk to Vidal soon... To be with him. Appearently he's found some architect already...
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Re: Class 9.50
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2007, 13:27:02 PM »
I know the guys on FoX as we worked on the GP26. Through them i got to know the new 9.5 rules draft.
From what i ve seen they are looking for a very powerfull, heavy sailed boat more between calss 40 and minis. No canting keels allowed, and low budget construction but the over all dimentions and ratios are a bit higher than the 40 ones and not as high as a mini!!
Check the news form this class because it should really take off!

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Re: Class 9.50
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2007, 12:31:35 PM »
Hi all,

More details about the rule should be announced shortly by JM Vidal as he will present the rule to the public.
It should be based a lot on the format of the mini series and Class 40 rules:
- Dimensions should enable good performances (as said by Gyachtdesign, ratios are intermediate between minis and Class 40)
- Same cost limiting restrictions (no canting keels, no carbon in hull/deck structures, sail materials...)
- The size was chosen so as to give enough interior volumes (minimum headroom of 1.80m)

We are now waiting for some quotes from a few shipyards.
We hope to be able to communicate a cost and delay estimate shortly.

For more info, contact me at charles@fox-tech.fr

Cheers,

Charles


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Re: Class 9.50
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2007, 12:35:24 PM »
Charles,

can you get me on the mailinglist of Vidal ?
I lost his email nr.
It looks very interesting, it is something a lot have been waiting for..

Offline Wookie Racing

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Re: Class 9.50
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2007, 19:19:04 PM »
Count me as one waiting for an option like this, Charles!!!

Love to hear more...

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Re: Class 9.50
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2007, 04:12:18 AM »
So, is the 9.5 rule like the 6.5 rule, only 3 more?  Do we really need another niche class at the present time?  From a Western Hemisphere perspective, we still need to focus on building the 6.5 class.

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Re: Class 9.50
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2007, 17:53:06 PM »
it depends, if the Class 40 changes into an old mans club (i sometimes fear that), it will be handy to have a 950.

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Re: Class 9.50
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2007, 10:37:11 AM »
The class was born mainly from the two following facts:
Class 40s are still largely expensive for most of the amateur sailors
6.50s are hardly usable for cruising purposes and both can get a bit too extreme to sail (class 40 can get very tough physically and 6.50s are very small...)

I can see and understand why people start to think "yet another class, do we need that...?" but apparently some people need it and considering the amount of interest i have seen up to know for this new class, it seems that these people won't be alone.
Furthermore i tend to think that the 9.50 has a good potential in places where the mini hasn't really developed yet.
Slightly bigger boat, dual purpose, not as extreme, still great fun could be a good formula in these regions/countries where offshore sailing isn't as developed or tend to be more conservative.
30' has often been a popular size...

A good race calendar will be the key to such a success and i believe JM V. has the means and experience to do it.
Looks like several boats will be sailing by Spring 2008. Hope it will take shape nicely.

Cheers,
Charles

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Re: Class 9.50
« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2007, 06:59:21 AM »
Have the Class 950 rules been published yet?

What is the difference between the Class 950 & Open 30? Please can someone explain the differences.

Thanks SloopJohnB

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Re: Class 9.50
« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2007, 13:26:55 PM »
Mainly:
Measurements, stability, no canting keels only water ballast. and one of the most importat things: classe 9.50 has a lot of support; unfortunately open 30s are stuck.

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Re: Class 9.50
« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2007, 07:56:35 AM »
Since that post I have found the class rules, it looks like the Classe 950 is a update verision of the W30 MG30 LD30 rules with less constaints.

The 950 rule looks far less extreme than the Open 30.


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Re: Class 9.50
« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2007, 09:32:21 AM »
good description.

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Re: Class 9.50
« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2007, 09:40:41 AM »
The more I look at this rule more and more I would like to built one.

For the last 2 months I have been looking at building a MG30 for shorthanded sailing (2 crew), offshore (4 crew) & round the buoys racing (6-7 crew)

The MG30/LD30 rule was an ideal for shorthanded sailing with the use of water ballast, unfortunately it don't takeoff as a class as it don't reach critical mass.

Are there any 950 in the water anywhere?