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Offline claudiof

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Mini designsfor amateur construction
« on: January 20, 2007, 15:14:28 PM »
Here is a list of Mini plans I found on the Web:

- Didi Mini (www.dixdesign.com/didimini.htm)
- Villenave Proto 650 (http://asso.abv.free.fr/bateaux/p04turb650.htm)
- Lucas Mini CP (including cutting files) (http://www.fr-lucas.com/site/realisations.asp?detail=27#liste)
- Finot 650 (http://www.finot.com)
- Julien Marin 650 (http://www.julienmarin.com/_fr_newslire.asp?num=4)
- Selway Fisher 650 (http://www.selway-fisher.com/Yacht2024.htm#TRANSAT)

The order is by preference and of course totally subjective. Parameters such as plan price and overall performance come into play. Besides I'm looking for the ideal cruiser-racer: good racing potential but also comfortable enough for cruising.

I thought first the Villenave has the oldest shape, with a marked round hull like a Pogo 1, but that's my inexperienced opinion. The Fisher has apparently the lowest performance potential. Someone commented in another post that the Didi has an old shape and the best trio is Villenave, Lucas, Finot.

I'm about to order plans, so any comment would help a lot. I also got information on these designs, so I'll try to answer questions. Just bear in mind that I never sailed a mini (just Open 5.70's or other sailers) and never built one either.


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Re: Mini designsfor amateur construction
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2007, 19:03:41 PM »
Claudiof,

I can't speak to the other designer's. I am building a Dix Didi Mini and have been doing so part time for a year now.

It is a very do able build, especially with the help of Dudley Dix and other builders. There are quite a few active builds going on around the world now.

I have yet to be told I won't answer that question because I assumed you were a builder before I sold you the plans.

I usually reserve my really 'amateur' questions for boat building forums under a assumed name....... I don't want Dudley to take away my plans because I'm to stupid to build a boat..... ;-)

If you or anyone else chooses to select a Didi Mini to build, I will be glad to answer questions as well.
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Offline claudiof

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Re: Mini designsfor amateur construction
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2007, 16:45:16 PM »
Hi,

I found your website a few weeks ago. It's really excellent! And you are right: I hope to get answers here on actual performance of these minis and reserve the discussion on building to another forum. Coming to my building background, well, I never built a boat, just windsurf boards. I did build part of an airplane however (real size) and hopefully this will help a bit.

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Re: Mini designsfor amateur construction
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2007, 22:11:26 PM »
A enave in the hand of p doinq (name i am not 100%sure about) did well, but is it boat or sailor.
Dix never raced in Eu.
Lineplan of Kucas was 7th in mt 01 (as a proto 231 was build from wood too).
Finot performs well, but you need high level of skills otherwhise its slow.
Thats the reason some Finot are fast 251 259 and i believe the 229 was the slow one... (badly built).

Marin unknown,Selway a joke,

Oh add Rolland to the list too.
He has amateur construction drawings.

If you think Finot is for amateur build, every designer can help you :)
 

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Re: Mini designsfor amateur construction
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2007, 00:46:21 AM »
 claudiof   Quote"Your comment is very interesting since this assumption placed it 2nd in my list, but otherwise it is a very interesting design: good interior space, double berth under the cockpit, nice kitchen, easy to convert from cruising to racing, plus it provides the "Certificat des Affaires maritimes", wiich forme helps a lot for the homologation.
   is this related too villanauve or lucas design  or?  Also what is plan pricing for lucas and villanauve
designs  Thanks.
   

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Re: Mini designsfor amateur construction
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2007, 13:22:55 PM »
Talk to Lucas, his design is newer :) or if you like the looks of the Villa, thake it..its all about training...

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Re: Mini designsfor amateur construction
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2007, 16:06:13 PM »
My comment on "double berth under the cockpit,..." is for the Villenave, priced at around 700 euros. I'm trying to contact Jean-Pierre Villenave since weeks but without success though (see contact info on http://asso.abv.free.fr/Association/architectes.htm).

The Lucas plans are 1800 euros with cutting files. It is a very recent design, very powerful.