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Offline NicoG

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Re: Lifting keel extra weight
« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2007, 21:24:22 PM »
my thinking.

Marin with bowsprit and rudders that are outside the box (risky)
Didi is based on older hull shape
selway is slow and ugly

good ones Villenave, Lucas, finot

i think finot is hard to build...


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Re: Lifting keel extra weight
« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2007, 13:40:51 PM »
LeoV .. Rudders are in the rules, if i m not wrong, the only thing about rudders is that they dont count in the length. Anyway there is no point in getting so complicated with the rudders.
you should look at prices too...
i guess Lucas and finot are the most expensive ones... (just guessing)

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Re: Lifting keel extra weight
« Reply #17 on: January 20, 2007, 14:57:59 PM »
The most expensive ones are the Finot and Marin, then Lucas (but including cutting files), then Didi and Villenave below the 1000$ mark, then Fisher. I'm talking about plan prices only of course.

I thought the Villenave had the oldest shape, with a marked round hull like a Pogo 1, but that's my inexperienced opinion. Your comment is very interesting since this assumption placed it 2nd in my list, but otherwise it is a very interesting design: good interior space, double berth under the cockpit, nice kitchen, easy to convert from cruising to racing, plus it provides the "Certificat des Affaires maritimes", wiich forme helps a lot for the homologation.

I'm starting a new post with this list to get more comments.

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Re: Lifting keel extra weight
« Reply #18 on: January 20, 2007, 19:21:29 PM »
i mean out of the box= unusual.
Not outside the boxrule, i see my wording was a bit dubious :)

Villenave and Dix are both based on 1990 designs.
THe Lucas is newer, means more powerfull and more interiour space :)

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Re: Lifting keel extra weight
« Reply #19 on: February 02, 2007, 00:43:24 AM »
It is interesting that the Lucas has a fixed keel.  The email I got from him was that a fixed keel is lighter, construction time and money are both less.  No daggerboards because the keel is fixed but also, they are heavy, expensive and long to built.  There is however, water ballast in an "optimized location".