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Offline 184

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Going to weather
« on: April 13, 2011, 10:55:47 AM »
Very light proto canting keel single symmetric dagger board.
Question,
Do I can't the keel going up wind pointing as high as possible?  The other day we sailed about 40 miles up wind with about 30 tacks. It was a good breeze about 14 true. At first we were canting the keel almost all the way to keep the boat upright. We were making tons of leeway. Single dagger board down. Then we stopped canting the keel and reduced sail area to keep her on her feet. It sure seemed like we held our ground better like this. Speed through the water was the same.
We need to experiment more, but in the mean time any one have any input?

Thanks

Phil MacFarlane

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Offline GDesign

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Re: Going to weather
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2011, 14:43:05 PM »
Hi Phil,

Without knowing the particulars of your boat i would say you are loosing too much lift when your keel is canted, it may require a larger daggerboard, a better section or switching to a more performing option (twin daggerboards).
But you should also find the balance between sail area and canting keel for your boat. But from my experience 14kts  you should be able to sail with your main up and keel canted.

good luck

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Re: Going to weather
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2011, 01:10:25 AM »
Thanks for the input any body else?  keep it coming.  Thanks.
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Re: Going to weather
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2011, 18:06:30 PM »
Foot, then point. 14 knts is full main upwind.

Offline 184

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Re: Going to weather
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2011, 11:25:57 AM »
Ok thanks,

What about water. The takes which are close to the centerline were empty. Should I have water in the tanks going to weather?
If not then, when do you want water in the tanks?
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Re: Going to weather
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2011, 22:24:16 PM »
Never sailed with center tanks, designer should have pointers for that...

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Re: Going to weather
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2011, 17:43:12 PM »
Phil,

Keeping the boat powered and going *fast* are essential for good VMG in the waves we had last weekend. For this you have to accept a wider tacking angle (50?).

For Wafi, fast means going 5.5+ knots over the water, steering S-curves to keep her moving smoothly through the swell and footing to deal with confused waves.

For power, I would have swung the keel up, eased the jib 3-4 inches from the flat-water-20-knots trim setting. Set the mainsail to balance out the jib & heel.

-P (on that blue tri :)

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Re: Going to weather
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2011, 02:07:08 AM »
Thanks pierke,

And congrats again!
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