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Equipment for sale / Recherche pilote + voiles
« Last post by sheriff44 on September 20, 2018, 18:49:00 PM »
Salut les ministes je suis à la recherche d'un pilote auto inboard pour mon mini, le 778, ainsi qu'un mer-veille, un ais, une blu.

A la recherche également de voiles de zero :
- Solent
- Gennaker
- Code 5
- Spi max
- Voile de cape et Tourmentin


Merci !







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Français - French / Re: circuit elec
« Last post by sheriff44 on September 20, 2018, 18:40:07 PM »
Bonjour je suis preneur également de votre circuit élec
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North American / Re: Chris Pitts Mini 565
« Last post by revision on September 17, 2018, 21:14:47 PM »

Interior shots

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North American / Re: Chris Pitts Mini 565
« Last post by revision on September 17, 2018, 19:10:45 PM »
The first couple show damage to the belly of the boat, not sure what dug into her but, judging by the rot of the wood, the damaged area has been submerged.






Tiller shot, standing water from improper blocking.


 


These are the longitudinals on either side of the cabin.  I'm guessing that there was water in the boat at some point, but it had been pumped by the time I go there.   The sails in the bags were built by Chris, not Doyle. The bags were merely ones he had around the shop.


 


This is what I PMd him:



She's carbon over plywood.  The keel needs to be completely rebuilt...it's not stainless...there is a 1.5" steel rod that connects the bottom bulb to another metal half bulb that is bolted to the underside of the hull.  The wood and carbon is all shot, as indicated in the pics, and the metal is bent.  It is high carbon steel (very hard but not very flexible,) so there is a good chance that it is cracked and, if so, it has to be replaced and cannot be repaired.  There is no way to tell whether or not that strut is salvageable without cutting in to the keel.  Furthermore there is damage from the drop to the internal grid work that supports the keel.


There is damage to the hull on the underside as pictured...needs to be reaved out and recored. Topsides are wet in the cockpit because the yard has it nose down and she isn't draining...recore.  Deck is punctured by stanchion from the fall...recore. Interior longitudinals in cabin are rotten, I suspect that she had standing water inside at some point.


Mast is trash and the aluminum replacement they are offering with the boat won't actually fit, nor would you want to go to an upsized, heavier extrusion.  What running rigging left is trash.


There is no trailer, and the yard has it blocked like a regular boat instead of properly supporting it in a cradle.


There is a decent sail inventory numbers wise, but it's all the original '05 sails and they were all built by the original builder.


What electronics that are there are all last gen raymarine and may or may not work.  Tillerpilot is only an ST series.  Tiller is delaminated and needs rebuilt.


What hardware/winches/clutches/blocks that are left are all heavier cruising grade for strength as opposed to the lighter harken or lewmar race units.   


Also of note (and as you mentioned that she is "weird") is that the boat itself was built for a different purpose than the transat...she was built to sail in the far northern waters of the atlantic.  She has a lot of freeboard and, while I'm told faster upwind than other minis, cannot hang with them off the wind, so at the end of the work and expense you're left with a niche boat with no potential market to sell to, especially now that anything not scow bowed is obsolete in the mini world....Not sure if you follow the mini circuit or what your potential plans would be, but she wouldn't be competitive against other minis in any downwind race.


I've talked a bit with Chris and estimates are roughly 17k to get it ready for paint and finishing, that includes a new wooden mast.  So figure another 3 to 5 in paint, 2 or so in a trailer, and another 2k in running rigging to have a race ready boat with 15 year old sails and a cedar mast.  If you wanted a carbon rig, probably another 5-10k on top of that.  Comparatively, race ready Pogo 2's (the winning-est mini design to date) are $30k all day long with a trailer once you expand your search beyond the US...roughly 5k to get them stateside via ship and that's loaded to bear with gear and a trailer.  There are 20k protos available in Canada. Hell even the brand new Pogo 3s are starting to come up at around 80k as the race gets closer...it seems like everyone is liquidating to go to the newer scows which are significantly faster off the breeze.  Also of note is that she is 550 pounds heavier than a Pogo 2.




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North American / Re: Chris Pitts Mini 565
« Last post by revision on September 17, 2018, 05:44:23 AM »
Thunderbolt?!?! Gotta love those 6 Krispy Kremes and the paper every morning! 
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North American / Re: Chris Pitts Mini 565
« Last post by danielhorton83 on September 17, 2018, 05:41:56 AM »
Ah sorry, by all means go for it, just seemed to have been there for a while, seems a waste and was looking for a project, am stuck in thrunderbolt marine in Savannah for 4 months so was going to bring her here... any info you have would be great though. 
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North American / Re: Chris Pitts Mini 565
« Last post by revision on September 17, 2018, 05:37:58 AM »
PM me contact information and I'll send you everything I have.
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North American / Re: Chris Pitts Mini 565
« Last post by danielhorton83 on September 17, 2018, 05:17:35 AM »
Pretty serious, I am about to put a deposit on it haha. I know its carbon coated, wondering how it is still together though.  Id be worried if it was just foam or something, kind of guessed t had some bolts or rods running the whole way through it as well....

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North American / Re: Chris Pitts Mini 565
« Last post by revision on September 17, 2018, 05:00:01 AM »
Good luck! If you'd seriously like to buy this, I am happy to elaborate as to the construction and repairs necessary. It is not stainless.
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North American / Re: Chris Pitts Mini 565
« Last post by danielhorton83 on September 17, 2018, 00:37:17 AM »
about to buy this, wish me luck! Does anyone know what the keel design is like, guessing it's stainless rods to the bulbs surrounded by wood with a carbon coating?
cheers
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